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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:15 pm What do you do with a neighbor who likes to spy on there neighbors? This person has cameras, microphones, spotlights, plays with there car alarm (chirps it) anytime someone walks by there vehicle. And plays with there car alarm (chirps) everytime I am out in my yard talking with family members. This person is only renting there house too. Any suggestions?
DesertRat
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:17 am indeep wrote: What do you do with a neighbor who likes to spy on there neighbors? This person has cameras, microphones, spotlights, plays with there car alarm (chirps it) anytime someone walks by there vehicle. And plays with there car alarm (chirps) everytime I am out in my yard talking with family members. This person is only renting there house too. Any suggestions?
Ignore it and keep your window shades down. Little you can do legally to prevent it. You can mess with him, but it will not change things.
Private
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:52 am DesertRat wrote: indeep wrote: What do you do with a neighbor who likes to spy on there neighbors? This person has cameras, microphones, spotlights, plays with there car alarm (chirps it) anytime someone walks by there vehicle. And plays with there car alarm (chirps) everytime I am out in my yard talking with family members. This person is only renting there house too. Any suggestions?
Ignore it and keep your window shades down. Little you can do legally to prevent it. You can mess with him, but it will not change things.
DesertRat- thanks for the advice, but is there any equipment out there that would mess with this persons equipment? The microphones are particulery troublesome. Could there landlord do anything about this?
DesertRat
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:17 pm indeep wrote:
DesertRat- thanks for the advice, but is there any equipment out there that would mess with this persons equipment? The microphones are particulery troublesome. Could there landlord do anything about this?
Proving things are being recorded is the hard part. In most places it is against the law to record conversations without permission. Its also a criminal matter. Trying to get the police to pay attention will be the hard part, even if its proven.
xicness
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:54 pm What you need to do is get a couple of bright lights and direct the beam(s) directly into the camera(s). As far as his microphones are concerned, get an old radio or two and put it on an annoying radio station, or just let it constantly emit ‘white noise’, or ‘static sound’. and keep your blinds facing their property closed. As far as the car alarm business goes, let them run their batteries down. Better yet, on your off days when you don’t have anything to do, make it a point to constantly pass their vehicle(you can even smile and wave to them while you’re doing it), you are’nt breaking the law. Hopefully after toying with them like that for a while will tire them out and after a while they will just give up… Good luck.
my2cents
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:22 am Do us a favor DesertRat, quite telling people to rush out and buy lasers and calling audio as “criminal acts”. People who spend hundreds of dollars on surivellience equipment to protect their homes are not doing this to “just” spy on the neighbors. As I have said many times before in my past posts, there are reasons for the cameras.(plural)
Just remember, when your outside your home and in the public view, cameras are everywhere. I bet you have one in your cell phone don’t you? People need to chill out on the owners of surivellience. Unless your doing something illegal ignore it.
DesertRat
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:56 am my2cents wrote: Do us a favor DesertRat, quite telling people to rush out and buy lasers and calling audio as “criminal acts”. People who spend hundreds of dollars on surivellience equipment to protect their homes are not doing this to “just” spy on the neighbors. As I have said many times before in my past posts, there are reasons for the cameras.(plural)
Just remember, when your outside your home and in the public view, cameras are everywhere. I bet you have one in your cell phone don’t you? People need to chill out on the owners of surivellience. Unless your doing something illegal ignore it.Depending on the state, covert audio recording is a crime. It needs to be properly noticed, as in signs, statements etc. That is why almost all surveillance video cameras do not have audio.
As for the lasers, a $15 laser pointer can easily defeat a $1000 camera. CCD are easily fooled that way. The cameras are legal but so is monkey wrenching them. I realize that not everyone who installs cameras is spying on their neighbors, but there is nothing wrong with pushing back a little. Are you aware of the incident with cameras in the Tenderloin a while back? Its instructive.
my2cents
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:56 pm I take it Desert Rat, that you have surviellence at your residence? Or have try’ed the laser light trick?
DesertRat
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:53 am my2cents wrote: I take it Desert Rat, that you have surviellence at your residence? Or have try’ed the laser light trick?Actually I am in the field, and am well aware of the law, the technology and the psychology of surveillance.
Most amateurs go with their own efforts, sometime even the X-10 crap. They don’t account for sun angles over the seasons, wiring things properly, what can be legally recorded, and what their neighbors might think, etc.
For example, when there was a thread about something similar a while back. If I was the installer and assuming the customer was not videoing the neighbors windows, I would have suggested that the customer bring the neighbor(s) over and show them the limits of the coverage and explain why they put it in. I have never seen that not work under those circumstances. It gets rid of the fear and doubts.
I have a pretty sophisticated system on my own property mostly because I use it to try out new gear. Its not just surveillance, it includes security, HVAC, home automation and other functions. I would never have paid to put it in. Its mostly a test bench.
As for lasers, it is well known in the trade. Once I verify that a camera is being jammed, I trace it as best I can to the source of the energy, and tell my clients. It is then up to them to resolve it with the neighbor.
Clearly I have rigged a few myself counter measures myself. The most sophisticated was where I included a motion sensor. Whenever the bubba went to work on it, the jamming ceased. Eventually he just took that camera down and there was peace
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